1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,720 When you're working, it's a pretty simple structure. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,680 You show up, you do your job, and you go home. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:12,260 I feel like here, when things go wrong, what I've learned was to voice my 4 00:00:12,260 --> 00:00:17,440 opinion a lot on why does this happen? Why is this happening? Why is no one 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,660 yet? Why am I sitting for one hour on set doing nothing? I had to learn the 6 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:26,000 way that if I just voice my opinion to one person, 7 00:00:26,780 --> 00:00:32,140 And let them go handle everything and keep my mouth shut. Usually, almost 8 00:00:32,140 --> 00:00:38,060 get what I want. I remember when you were in Big Boss. I felt like that was a 9 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:41,940 massive India jump. You became like a cultural icon in that phase. And you 10 00:00:41,940 --> 00:00:45,740 stayed there. My goals were very different for being on that show. My 11 00:00:45,740 --> 00:00:51,480 just to step one foot in the door. And whether I stayed for one day or a week 12 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:54,240 it ended up being seven weeks. That was my goal. 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,440 It wasn't anything more. It wasn't, there was no formula in my head that I 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,400 to go on the show and fight. When I watched the show before, I was thinking, 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,820 not this person who just fights with people. 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,000 This is our episode with Sunny Leone. Asked her all the things I've always 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,360 wanted to ask her. This is the kind of conversation I would have had with her 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,300 I just met her at a party or a public event. 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,260 But you know what? I'm blessed enough to be doing a podcast for a living and I 20 00:01:20,260 --> 00:01:22,880 get to have these conversations in front of you guys. 21 00:01:23,290 --> 00:01:26,890 Enjoy today's conversation with Sunny Leone. A new film, Kennedy. Make sure 22 00:01:26,890 --> 00:01:31,190 go enjoy it. But for now, enjoy this special episode of TRS. 23 00:01:50,010 --> 00:01:51,350 Sunny Leone, what's up? 24 00:01:51,610 --> 00:01:52,650 Hi, how are you? 25 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:54,320 How's it going? Good. How are you? 26 00:01:54,740 --> 00:01:55,719 I'm good. 27 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,500 Good to have you in the studio. 28 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:58,439 Thank you. 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,660 Sorry we made you wait this long to unleash the actual TRS energy. 30 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:03,919 It's okay. 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,980 How's life been lately? 32 00:02:05,460 --> 00:02:06,460 Great. 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Wonderful. You want to expand on why it's great? 34 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:16,640 I love my life. I have a great family. I feel like my career is doing pretty 35 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:17,640 good. 36 00:02:18,510 --> 00:02:22,090 You know, everybody's healthy. So can't get any better than that. Okay. Is 37 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:24,150 Mumbai home for you now? Like in your heart? 38 00:02:24,750 --> 00:02:26,430 Yes. Yes. I don't want to live anywhere else. 39 00:02:26,730 --> 00:02:29,450 Only here. You wouldn't want to go back to Canada at any point? 40 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:30,910 Absolutely not. 41 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:33,930 Really? Not to Canada or not to the US. No way. 42 00:02:34,190 --> 00:02:35,190 Why do you say that? 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,140 I think that the U .S. and Canada or especially the U .S. is in a very not so 44 00:02:41,140 --> 00:02:45,940 great space right now. And I feel safer here and I feel happier here with my 45 00:02:45,940 --> 00:02:50,720 children and my family and my businesses than I think I ever would in the U .S. 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,060 Okay. This is what a lot of people from the film world say. Okay. You guys are 47 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:58,040 just used to conversations where people are attacking you with questions and 48 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,040 trying to get headlines out. 49 00:02:59,790 --> 00:03:00,790 Is that the case? 50 00:03:00,970 --> 00:03:05,530 No, I don't think so. I think that people are inquisitive about many 51 00:03:05,530 --> 00:03:08,830 things. And a lot of people have the same questions, which is totally fine. 52 00:03:09,370 --> 00:03:15,730 And it just depends on that journalist or reporter's energy. Sometimes you do 53 00:03:15,730 --> 00:03:18,590 the same interviews with the same questions, but it turns out completely 54 00:03:18,590 --> 00:03:23,650 different. So it just depends on who you're talking to. Okay. Tell me about 55 00:03:23,650 --> 00:03:24,730 you've been learning lately. 56 00:03:24,970 --> 00:03:26,870 What I've been learning? At this stage of life. 57 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:29,850 At this stage of life, learning. 58 00:03:32,370 --> 00:03:36,930 Learning that everything can change within a second as far as your career 59 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:39,670 or your family goes. 60 00:03:40,790 --> 00:03:44,830 Having three children is very challenging, so I'm learning from them 61 00:03:44,830 --> 00:03:45,830 single day. 62 00:03:46,950 --> 00:03:49,870 Because as they change, I also have to change. 63 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:53,090 It's not the other way around. Children don't change for you. 64 00:03:53,510 --> 00:03:55,070 You have to change for them. 65 00:03:55,630 --> 00:03:57,330 So that's really interesting. 66 00:03:58,770 --> 00:04:02,810 What else am I learning? I don't know how to like have patience. 67 00:04:03,610 --> 00:04:04,610 Okay. 68 00:04:04,890 --> 00:04:05,930 That's all you want to say? 69 00:04:06,170 --> 00:04:07,170 Yeah, I guess so. 70 00:04:07,210 --> 00:04:09,050 Okay. How have you changed for your children? 71 00:04:09,890 --> 00:04:16,010 Everything. Everything changes. Like every tiny little thing, like how you 72 00:04:16,010 --> 00:04:20,490 respond to how they do their work or each of my children is completely 73 00:04:20,490 --> 00:04:22,950 different. They're nothing alike. 74 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:31,610 how they react to discipline or how they react to learning or how they want to 75 00:04:31,610 --> 00:04:36,610 engage with you versus when they need their space or when they need certain 76 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:40,710 things. So every human being and every child is very, very different. 77 00:04:40,990 --> 00:04:41,990 Okay. 78 00:04:42,670 --> 00:04:47,270 It's the same as us. It's just that we have, I think, less patience for adults 79 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:50,250 than we do for children. Children we have patience for. 80 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:52,290 Okay. No, I hear you. 81 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:55,980 Do you think motherhood is changing you as an actor or as a professional? 82 00:04:56,340 --> 00:04:59,700 I'm coming from the perspective of fatherhood because I feel it's one of my 83 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:03,140 personal goals. Like you have career goals and then you have life goals. And 84 00:05:03,140 --> 00:05:05,740 fatherhood is a big life goal for me. But I keep questioning how it's going to 85 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:07,820 change how I go about my career. 86 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,060 Yeah, it just depends on your parenting style. 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,380 So some people's parenting style is one way and some are another. Mine is more 88 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:18,200 structured. Mine is more... 89 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:22,400 As you have just noticed, probably a little type A personality. 90 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,640 So everything in my world is structured. Everything is on a schedule. Everything 91 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,980 is, you know, planned out throughout my children's entire day. So I know from 92 00:05:34,980 --> 00:05:40,720 the morning until I got here, my children saw me. I got to spend time 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,040 I sat with them when they were at breakfast or I helped them build their 94 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,300 run this morning before I started makeup. So I know. 95 00:05:49,090 --> 00:05:52,810 My schedule, and then I have to get into hair and makeup. And then I know that, 96 00:05:52,810 --> 00:05:56,050 you know, once I'm there, if they need to come talk to me, they can. But now 97 00:05:56,050 --> 00:05:57,190 they're out of class. 98 00:05:57,410 --> 00:05:59,990 Then they will come home. Then they will have lunch. Then they will have this. 99 00:06:00,070 --> 00:06:01,070 Then they have another class. 100 00:06:01,390 --> 00:06:06,730 So their entire day is scheduled like this. So then I know as a professional 101 00:06:06,730 --> 00:06:12,470 when I need to be home, when my work needs to end, when I need to slot, make 102 00:06:12,470 --> 00:06:16,870 sure that time is given to my children that we all know. 103 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:23,580 And it's not like some sporadic schedule where they don't know when mommy's not 104 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:26,480 coming. You know, when mommy's coming home, when I'm not coming home, they 105 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,340 understand that when I work, that it makes mommy a better person. 106 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,700 So it just depends on your own parenting style when you have a child. If it's 107 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,980 free -for -all, that happens a lot in Indian homes here. 108 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,180 Children are like... 109 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:52,630 It's like a psychological battle where for them, they understand you're 110 00:06:52,630 --> 00:06:54,930 home today. They don't understand why you're not home tomorrow. 111 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:59,750 Now, if you don't have those conversations and that open conversation 112 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:02,790 kids, then they get confused. 113 00:07:03,310 --> 00:07:06,050 It's like saying today you can light the candle. 114 00:07:06,530 --> 00:07:07,990 Tomorrow you can light the candle. 115 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:11,810 But on this day, you cannot light it because I'm not in the mood. 116 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:14,470 But what sense does that make? 117 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,780 So it's all about, you know, how you structure and communicate with your 118 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:24,580 Rubbing that type A personality into your kids. Well, I think that children 119 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:31,240 psychologically and emotionally thrive more on structure than they do on a non 120 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,740 -structured home. Yeah. I think what you see as a kid becomes your reality as an 121 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:39,060 adult. So I think it's actually cool that you're rubbing that type A 122 00:07:39,060 --> 00:07:43,980 in. Well, I want... them to feel good you know and when they're learning 123 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:48,880 observed they're absorbing as much information as possible so when you have 124 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,900 children that are tired that sleep at 12 o 'clock they go to school all day then 125 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:59,120 they don't get a nap then they're only being fed when they're cranky so you're 126 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:05,740 not actually you're not helping them grow as individuals i feel okay not that 127 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:09,800 will ever mess With you? But I wouldn't want to ever mess with you. You come 128 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:10,900 across as that kind of person. 129 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Well... Does anyone ever cross a line with you? Does anyone piss you off? I'd 130 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,600 like to know how you react. 131 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:20,140 It depends on who it is, really. 132 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Yeah? In Mumbai, have you felt that with all the chaos going on in the 133 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,780 professional world here? I think it's just the nature of doing business in 134 00:08:29,780 --> 00:08:33,280 and it's also the beauty of it. Because a lot of work happens because of the 135 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,620 chaos. Yeah, the wheel's turning but no one knows how. 136 00:08:35,860 --> 00:08:39,770 What? The wheel is turning, but no one knows how. 137 00:08:40,030 --> 00:08:41,350 Right. It just goes. 138 00:08:41,890 --> 00:08:47,090 That's what you've noticed about Mumbai work culture, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 139 00:08:47,210 --> 00:08:50,110 As compared to America and Canada. Yeah, there it's more black and white. 140 00:08:50,450 --> 00:08:51,389 As in? 141 00:08:51,390 --> 00:08:54,330 Like black and white. There is no in the middle gray area. 142 00:08:54,970 --> 00:08:57,110 Okay. So here there's a gray area. 143 00:08:57,610 --> 00:08:58,610 Okay. 144 00:08:58,770 --> 00:08:59,910 Where everything goes. 145 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,140 I understand what you're saying but we also have 13 year olds watching this so 146 00:09:06,140 --> 00:09:10,700 I'd love for you to simplify what you just said and I'll tell you why because 147 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:15,380 had the foreign minister of India on the show recently and he said how it's very 148 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:20,800 important for a lot of Indians abroad to come back but also Indians here to go 149 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,300 out there understand work culture abroad and I feel it's two very different 150 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:27,720 things and there's very few people who got success in both places. 151 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,100 That's also because of your type A personality. 152 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:32,640 But I'm sure there's a lot of nuanced learning. 153 00:09:33,020 --> 00:09:35,920 Exactly what you said about black and white and the wheel turning. 154 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,060 Just break that down a little bit. And I ask you this because I respect the fact 155 00:09:40,060 --> 00:09:41,880 that you've maintained your relevance. 156 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,860 That's one of the most difficult things to do in a career that includes fame. 157 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,240 You've maintained it for so long. 158 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,780 So you've been doing a lot of things correct. 159 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:51,560 What's been happening? 160 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:52,900 Non -journalist question. 161 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,340 I think that... 162 00:09:55,580 --> 00:09:58,320 When you're working, it's a pretty simple structure. 163 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,840 You show up, you do your job and you go home. 164 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:10,520 And when I feel like here, when things go wrong, what I've learned compared 165 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,980 to the beginning of my career here was to voice my opinion a lot on why does 166 00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:20,660 this happen? Why is this happening? Why is no one here yet? Why am I sitting for 167 00:10:20,660 --> 00:10:24,640 one hour on set doing nothing? Why am I, you know, why is... 168 00:10:25,260 --> 00:10:28,960 Why is the script a certain way and then all of a sudden now you're changing it? 169 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,280 These things don't make sense to me. Or if you've discussed one thing in a 170 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:40,280 scene, why is it changing all of a sudden to something completely 171 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,160 didn't make sense to me. The script was the script in my head. A story was a 172 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:50,140 story. So in that way, I had to learn the hard way that if I just... 173 00:10:50,510 --> 00:10:56,250 voice my opinion to one person and let them go handle everything and keep my 174 00:10:56,250 --> 00:11:03,230 mouth shut i'll um usually almost always get what i want which 175 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:07,030 is the same thing that they want it's just being put across as something 176 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:11,870 different so maybe there's like some language barriers there i'm not talking 177 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:16,790 about actual language i mean just in how we cultural value yeah like communicate 178 00:11:18,110 --> 00:11:22,190 So they want the same thing I do, but we have to come to some common ground 179 00:11:22,190 --> 00:11:28,150 without arguing. And that, you know, was something that was very interesting to 180 00:11:28,150 --> 00:11:34,570 learn or how the entire set with, you know, 150 people there, half of them not 181 00:11:34,570 --> 00:11:39,570 wearing shoes or electrical equipment or why things are not taped down on the 182 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:41,550 floor, you know, like that. 183 00:11:41,930 --> 00:11:47,430 Like simple things like that or here a lot of business is done on feeling 184 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:53,710 emotions where, you know, maybe it's changing a little bit now, 185 00:11:53,830 --> 00:12:00,690 but they would do things more on emotion than on facts. 186 00:12:01,010 --> 00:12:05,850 Okay. You know, like numbers, facts, like when you're looking at someone's 187 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:10,150 popularity or you're looking at analytics of who somebody is. 188 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:18,210 Where now we're learning back that maintaining a certain level of 189 00:12:18,490 --> 00:12:22,790 which is not something that I'm always good at or Daniel, because we're so like 190 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:25,030 black and white, let's keep going, let's keep working. 191 00:12:25,730 --> 00:12:30,530 It's something that definitely needs to be done here. So India functions a lot 192 00:12:30,530 --> 00:12:31,530 on. 193 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:36,060 where in the U .S. everything's black and white. You show up, you do your job, 194 00:12:36,140 --> 00:12:37,140 and you go home. 195 00:12:37,860 --> 00:12:40,000 And that's, you know, as simple as it gets. 196 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,220 And you're still enjoying all this more? Like the emotional? Yeah, I love it. I 197 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:47,960 think that India is one of the most amazing emerging markets in the world. I 198 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,900 think that everything that happens here is like, it's unbelievable. 199 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:54,380 And it's unbelievable to watch. 200 00:12:55,940 --> 00:13:00,920 You know, A lot of people who understand your world and who are studying your 201 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,280 journey know about like your whole entrepreneurial side. 202 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,640 There's a lot of people who don't as well and are getting to learn about this 203 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,260 new version of you. 204 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:14,320 You've actually made a lot of people a lot of money. Like that's the chatter 205 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,520 that came up about you when I was like researching for this episode. 206 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,840 That when there's a lot of gaming companies. 207 00:13:24,060 --> 00:13:27,440 That actually rely on you as like the main bet in order to become profitable. 208 00:13:27,980 --> 00:13:32,020 That says a lot about like professional prowess. 209 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:33,620 Yeah, I should ask for more money. 210 00:13:34,580 --> 00:13:36,100 You should. I'm just kidding. 211 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,420 I'm happy with all the agreements I have with everyone. 212 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:41,420 You're very well spoken. 213 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,200 And I think that actually is like your X factor. 214 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:47,780 Are you aware of that? 215 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,420 That happens with like American and Canadian education. 216 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,790 I think you guys are just... trained way better in communication skills? 217 00:13:54,090 --> 00:14:01,050 Um, so I learned all my communication skills after the age of, um, it was 218 00:14:01,050 --> 00:14:06,210 like 16, 17, 16, 17 is when I really started learning about communication 219 00:14:06,210 --> 00:14:13,110 skills, um, through school or through, I started working at 15 and a half and I 220 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:16,150 have worked almost every single job you can think of in the US. 221 00:14:16,430 --> 00:14:17,430 I've worked there. 222 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:19,130 So, um, 223 00:14:20,090 --> 00:14:24,930 That's where it started, and then I really started learning interviews and 224 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:28,230 to give them different personalities a lot after 18. 225 00:14:28,810 --> 00:14:33,170 Okay. Yeah. You want to expand on this? When I worked in the adult entertainment 226 00:14:33,170 --> 00:14:38,410 industry, I did so many different interviews across the entire world and 227 00:14:38,410 --> 00:14:44,850 country. When I mean interviews, there are press days you have for, 228 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:46,510 let's say, a film. 229 00:14:47,050 --> 00:14:51,610 Like someone super famous you can think of here who does an entire press day for 230 00:14:51,610 --> 00:14:55,830 a film. It's the beginning of it. So it's the entire day. So the same thing 231 00:14:55,830 --> 00:15:01,830 would happen there where we would do big radio trails and interviews and TV 232 00:15:01,830 --> 00:15:04,830 interviews and all that. So that's where it really started. So a lot of my 233 00:15:04,830 --> 00:15:09,810 mistakes of speaking or how to communicate, they all happened then. It 234 00:15:09,810 --> 00:15:11,090 boot camp for Bollywood. 235 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:13,110 What mistakes did you make? 236 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,820 Just the way that you speak, you know, when you listen back on conversations 237 00:15:17,820 --> 00:15:20,600 have, you're like, why was I saying, uh, uh, uh. 238 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,900 I probably do it now and I would say, um. 239 00:15:24,420 --> 00:15:27,760 No, no, no. You're pretty like straightforward and smooth with like the 240 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,940 talk. So then all those little things, you know, kind of disappear after you 241 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:34,120 watch yourself a few times. 242 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Does it piss you off that journalists take your conversations to that whole 243 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,279 phase of your life? 244 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,920 No, I don't care. It is not the question. 245 00:15:42,510 --> 00:15:45,730 that might be an issue. It's the manner in which the question is asked. 246 00:15:45,970 --> 00:15:52,190 So if the same question is asked 10 times and one person asks it with 247 00:15:52,190 --> 00:15:58,710 an opinion already formed, they've already 248 00:15:58,710 --> 00:16:05,290 judged me, they've already put me in this box that they hold me in without 249 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:07,590 unbiased, then... 250 00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:12,370 Yes, it's going to come across as being rude or, you know, not so nice. 251 00:16:13,210 --> 00:16:14,210 Okay. 252 00:16:15,130 --> 00:16:18,690 What's the angriest you've gotten in India in one of these interactions? 253 00:16:19,210 --> 00:16:21,030 I don't really get that angry in an interaction. 254 00:16:21,370 --> 00:16:22,970 No. There's no anger in you? 255 00:16:23,470 --> 00:16:25,870 If there is in it, you would never know it. 256 00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:28,390 Like you'll just be able to hide it? 257 00:16:29,070 --> 00:16:33,090 Absolutely. It's not my job to let you get the, I'm not going to let you get 258 00:16:33,090 --> 00:16:33,929 better of me. 259 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:36,790 I don't. No, I'm just like, it could be anyone. 260 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,300 be anyone giving an interview why would i give you that satisfaction okay so i i 261 00:16:42,300 --> 00:16:48,620 don't know i believe in that whatever karma is we'll get them later leaving it 262 00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:53,640 to the universe yeah of course okay that that whole phase of your life when you 263 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:59,100 were an adult stuff behind the scenes in terms of the life you're living when 264 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:02,160 you're sleeping at night when you're waking up i'm 100 sure there's a lot of 265 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,960 learnings along the way as well yeah of course what were those learnings like 266 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,540 For example, if you ask me about the behind the scenes learning of YouTubing, 267 00:17:11,540 --> 00:17:13,859 big learning has been that people can forget you like that. 268 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,560 You'll be flying one day and the next day you'll be out. 269 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:20,660 Fame is one of those things where you have to keep adding fuel to the fire. 270 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:22,859 the day you even take a break, people begin to forget you. 271 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:26,420 And it's such a harsh reality that you only learn on the job. 272 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:29,480 I want to learn about your harsh realities from that phase. 273 00:17:30,679 --> 00:17:35,020 Harsh realities? I don't know. I mean, I don't really look at my career as like, 274 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:39,360 I don't like take those harsh realities and go, okay, now I need to harbor on 275 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:40,980 them at all. 276 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:45,980 So I believe in the opposite of what you just said. I think that if you are 277 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:52,040 someone in business or you're someone who is, you know, YouTuber influencer, 278 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,160 have a personality based, I guess, I don't want to say website, but you have 279 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,160 personality based. 280 00:17:59,129 --> 00:18:02,190 You're just selling your face. Yeah, you're selling yourself. You're selling 281 00:18:02,190 --> 00:18:02,869 this podcast. 282 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:04,230 This is all you, right? 283 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:05,550 It's about consistency. 284 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:12,510 So that consistency, as long as you are voicing whatever your opinions are, then 285 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:15,150 those followers are going to stay with you. I'm not talking about the follower 286 00:18:15,150 --> 00:18:16,710 that just comes for the day and then leaves. 287 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:20,230 I'm talking about your hardcore followers, the ones that always stay 288 00:18:20,270 --> 00:18:25,470 And that steadily grows as you continue with your business. Because if you're 289 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:27,310 not evolving in your business, then... 290 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:31,920 that's a problem. You know, if you do the same thing over and over again, 291 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,840 a problem. But you as a personality, they will follow because they like you. 292 00:18:36,260 --> 00:18:43,260 So even when learning in that time, building a website, 293 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,200 building my own HTML program, building my own affiliate program, learning. 294 00:18:49,470 --> 00:18:53,470 Sorry, not building my own HTML program, learning HTML, learning how to edit 295 00:18:53,470 --> 00:18:54,910 photos, learning how to edit video. 296 00:18:55,350 --> 00:19:00,570 Like I had notebooks of, you know, all these different things where I was 297 00:19:00,570 --> 00:19:06,450 learning how to do it all. I did everything from A to Z and everything 298 00:19:06,450 --> 00:19:08,330 editing to all of it. 299 00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:13,150 So in that, and then once that was done, then learning how to. 300 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,700 market it and then learning how to get you know other affiliates to send 301 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:24,140 to my websites or you know all that so everything was a learning process and a 302 00:19:24,140 --> 00:19:30,480 lot of it wasn't easy and I had no money so or like barely breaking even but I 303 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,160 refused to give it to somebody else to run because giving somebody 50 % of what 304 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,250 I of me was didn't make sense to me at all and you must have been like 18 or 19 305 00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:46,750 at this point started at um i was like 19 damn so that's when it all it started 306 00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:52,930 were you really good at school like no i wasn't i was a student really yeah okay 307 00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:57,530 i would assume my parents i would assume that this whole type a personality just 308 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:03,150 extended in that direction and this direction i grew up in a very not so um 309 00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:11,650 uh, easy household where it was easy for me to like keep learning. It was more, 310 00:20:11,730 --> 00:20:15,810 we were more focused on the emotional things that were happening in, in our, 311 00:20:15,810 --> 00:20:22,150 our house. So, um, I don't think that it was a conducive place for, uh, really 312 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:25,630 excelling. My brother though is extremely smart. He's like that. 313 00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:27,810 the kid that is a forever student. 314 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:32,030 Okay. You know, we all know like one of those in our friend circle who's a 315 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:35,150 forever student that's always learning. That's my brother. And I was the 316 00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:40,110 complete opposite, but I started working and making money when I was, I don't 317 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:41,110 know, six years old. 318 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:45,770 Really? So not a lot of my, I'm talking about money for candy or money, you 319 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:47,170 know, but it was three. 320 00:20:47,889 --> 00:20:50,530 Creating the plan was always my idea. 321 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:54,750 So whether it was selling something door to door, whether it was selling 322 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:59,070 lemonade, whether it was shoveling snow on the driveway after a snowstorm, which 323 00:20:59,070 --> 00:21:04,170 is like huge money because we would spend all day shoveling our neighbor's 324 00:21:04,170 --> 00:21:09,370 driveways for not a lot of money. But at that time, it was a lot of money for 325 00:21:09,370 --> 00:21:10,370 me. 326 00:21:10,550 --> 00:21:12,990 So I was always that girl. 327 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:14,630 Okay. All right. 328 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Did you make a lot of money between age 18 and 25? 329 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:22,560 Because that's the assumption. 330 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:29,800 Yeah, of course. I mean, for myself, I think that what happened after a certain 331 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,500 amount of time, I was making a lot of money. And then I started investing 332 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,040 everything into my business. 333 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:38,440 And once I started investing everything into my business. Which was your 334 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,440 personal brand? 335 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:40,780 Which was... 336 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:45,690 A production house, my own website, this affiliate program we talked about 337 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:49,830 hiring the right people for design work and all this stuff. So all those things 338 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:51,290 cost money. 339 00:21:51,910 --> 00:21:57,850 So when my husband and I, he was my boyfriend at the time, started our own 340 00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:01,170 production house, we had negative money. We had nothing. Like negative meaning 341 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:04,910 he took a loan on a credit card to start. 342 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:08,590 And that's it. The rest is history. 343 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:13,260 applying the desi brains and jewish brains together yeah to figure out how 344 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:18,120 multiply the money yeah exactly that's he's a very good businessman so yeah 345 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,820 that's the energy you guys give off as a couple you know i've only met you very 346 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:23,800 briefly and i purposely didn't speak too much because i wanted to have this 347 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,920 interaction with you here like i there was a part of me that always knew i'll 348 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,530 end up speaking to you in the studio at some point so This is not the end of the 349 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:36,030 podcast, but I was really looking forward to speaking to you. I feel you 350 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:39,870 lot of stories and a lot of anecdotes and experiences which you're never asked 351 00:22:39,870 --> 00:22:40,870 about. Yeah. 352 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:44,030 And I intend on doing some of it today. 353 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:51,210 I want to ask you about what the best and worst aspect of your life was during 354 00:22:51,210 --> 00:22:52,330 your adult film career. 355 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,280 During my adult, the best part was I worked with the best of the best 356 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:04,080 This idea of having like business and street smarts really helped me out. 357 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:11,460 And for me, it was you really don't need your whole brain to figure out 358 00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:13,060 how this all functions. 359 00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:17,540 And I just stuck with it and just was very consistent. 360 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,420 As an intuition used to kick in and used to make a decision through intuition. 361 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,640 Yeah. Okay. 362 00:23:22,910 --> 00:23:25,990 Like what? Like if you don't like someone, you won't work with them? No. 363 00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:32,130 just intuitions, but also it all had to come down to just facts about the 364 00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:35,970 company or facts about how things work. I read every single contract. I 365 00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:38,850 corrected every single contract so that it would work in my favor. 366 00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:44,930 And the companies that I worked with, they would get what they wanted. I also 367 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:49,650 got what I wanted. So it was never a situation where I was being taken 368 00:23:49,650 --> 00:23:50,650 of. Okay. 369 00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:54,130 What was the worst aspect of it? The worst aspect of it? 370 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Maybe seeing some of the other girls' success and how fast it worked and I had 371 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,880 to work maybe harder because I worked at a very slow pace and I wasn't into some 372 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,760 of the things that were happening around me or that wasn't the step that I 373 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,380 wanted to take at that moment and then sitting going, okay, now I got to work a 374 00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:20,200 little bit harder. But that's my entire life always. I've always had to work 375 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,380 twice as hard or three times as hard because it's just... 376 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,940 It gets there where I want it to, but it just takes time. Even now? Even now. 377 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,879 Yeah, of course. 378 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,260 I remember when you were in Big Boss, at least from my eyes, and I might be 379 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:39,300 wrong, but I felt like that was a massive India jump. You became like a 380 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:43,020 icon in that phase and you stayed there. You know, that's what I find cool as 381 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:47,800 well. Like it's still like the same cultural icon, but there was a massive 382 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,400 during your Big Boss phase. 383 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,660 Yeah. I remember you being very polite in the Big Boss house. That's what I 384 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:56,840 visualize about you. Yeah. 385 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,320 My goals were very different for being on that show. My goal was just to step 386 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:07,340 one foot in the door. And whether I stayed for one day or a week or it ended 387 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:13,020 being seven weeks, that was my goal. It wasn't anything more. 388 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:17,060 There was no formula in my head that I have to go on the show and fight. When I 389 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:18,840 watched the show before. 390 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:22,980 I was thinking, I'm not that person who just fights with people. 391 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:30,700 And I think for a reality show, like the creative 392 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:36,320 of the show, they didn't necessarily care whether I was going to fight with 393 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,840 someone or express some crazy opinions or go after people. For me, me walking 394 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,240 the door was what they needed. 395 00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:49,160 And me, for myself, me walking in the door was what I needed. So it didn't... 396 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,940 For them, I don't think it mattered whether that formula of, okay, you're 397 00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:55,720 to go in there, you're going to cause some ruckus, you're going to do this and 398 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,380 that. So my objective wasn't that at all. Did it play with you 399 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,559 that house? 400 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,680 Yeah, of course. It does? I think it does. Yeah, of course. I want to know 401 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,400 type A personality answer to this question. What happens? 402 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,420 That's all I've heard people say. Like any of my friends who've been in big 403 00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:13,820 boats, they say it psychologically messes with you. Yeah, it's a 404 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:17,000 game for sure. What happens? 405 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:22,310 what happens is you're cut off. So the first thing that happens is you lose 406 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:23,310 sense of time. 407 00:26:24,590 --> 00:26:28,590 So once you lose your sense of time, you know in the morning when the song 408 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:31,610 starts and the lights go on that it's morning. 409 00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:36,910 But somewhere in between, there's no sense of time. 410 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:41,430 You're just going to guess when you're hungry and you want to eat lunch or all 411 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:42,490 these different things. 412 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,280 The day just goes because you're with so many people. It's like being stuck in a 413 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,820 room with all these people. You don't really know them. You know them, but you 414 00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:57,840 don't know how they act when they're in their own homes or in their own rooms. 415 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:04,860 So all that comes into play, which is very interesting to watch, I'm sure. 416 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,200 Because it reveals your own character to yourself as well. Yeah, and you also 417 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,200 forget the cameras. 418 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,980 You forget that the cameras are there. 419 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,000 Sometimes you might remember that the cameras are there, but after a certain 420 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,080 point in time, just like time, it doesn't exist anymore. You're just 421 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,839 this box. 422 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,580 Were you dating Daniel at this point? 423 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,660 Yeah, I was. Yeah, Daniel came with me with my security person we had with us, 424 00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:35,280 and they dropped me. 425 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,820 They put me in the Anova and then into the house. And they told Daniel and our 426 00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:44,820 friend Jeej, you know, bye -bye. So they got on a plane and went home. 427 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:49,560 Wow. So I just realized this now that I was having a conversation with somebody 428 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,000 is that I had no emotional support system on the outside. 429 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,740 And I was thinking, oh, yeah, that is true. I was kind of alone. 430 00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:03,200 So it's very weird. Like other people had, you know, their family sending them 431 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,240 maybe something inside the house or some, you know, they knew that right 432 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,640 that door, they had a support system, which one was the opposite. 433 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,980 Okay. I don't know a polite way to ask this question, but I hope that you 434 00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:17,380 understand it's coming from a polite place. 435 00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:23,100 Did a lot of people hit on you when you just got out of the big boss house? When 436 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,080 I got out? Yeah, because I don't know how many people knew about Daniel back 437 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,280 then. And they knew about him. But I also live in I live in a bubble. 438 00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:36,340 So even like, when I came out, I'm still waiting for like, you know, really good 439 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:37,340 looking guy to come. 440 00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:40,260 It doesn't happen. 441 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,400 Because it's always fun to be hit on. Yeah, of course. 442 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,120 But no, that it doesn't happen. It doesn't even happen now. 443 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,360 Nope. Really? I know. It's so sad. And I don't I don't know how true that is. 444 00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:54,700 Maybe maybe I'm never alone. 445 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,320 Okay, as in Daniel's always with you? No, no, not just him. I'm talking about 446 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,320 just anybody. 447 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,760 Okay. Whether it's my team, going somewhere. 448 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,600 The only time I'm doing personal things is like maybe with my kids or if I go 449 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,200 get a massage at the spa. 450 00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:16,340 But other than that, I'm not alone that much, which I think is a problem now 451 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:17,840 that we say it out loud. 452 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,940 I mean, but when you go for an event, you don't feel any kind of uncle energy, 453 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,440 just like... 454 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:30,740 coming towards you i know that this happens with a lot of my hyper 455 00:29:30,740 --> 00:29:35,700 friends yeah uh just because they're hyper attractive when they enter rooms 456 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:40,140 there's a lot of energy directed towards them well i mean there's yeah there's 457 00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:43,060 lots of people that want to take a photo with you but not someone that comes up 458 00:29:43,060 --> 00:29:48,560 to you and says hey baby want to go have a drink none not that never happens 459 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,480 At all. It's never happened. 460 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,580 No, even when I've gone out with like, let's say I go out with one of my 461 00:29:55,580 --> 00:29:59,120 girlfriends to dinner. Nope, doesn't happen. 462 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,220 Maybe this is IPA. That's because there's a security person standing in a 463 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:05,560 corner, you know. Okay, fair. 464 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,940 Fair, cool. Yeah, I wish it did. 465 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:14,340 I don't know how much I believe you. Sometimes, like maybe like a couple 466 00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:15,340 year would be nice. 467 00:30:16,899 --> 00:30:20,400 Again, I don't know how much I believe you here, but I appreciate. No, it's 468 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,820 true. Really? Yeah. 469 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,480 Really? No one comes near me. 470 00:30:24,820 --> 00:30:25,820 Hmm. 471 00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:28,000 I miss give off like a bit. 472 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:31,100 When was the last time you were single? 473 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:35,900 2007. 474 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,280 Okay. 475 00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:42,930 I was only single for a very short amount of time. I was like, you know, 476 00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:44,850 people who are like serial daters. 477 00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:48,290 I feel that vibe. 478 00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:58,010 I had, I had, I had like single lifetime, which was really nice. And 479 00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:01,410 I had a lot, a lot more time. I've always was with somebody. 480 00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:06,410 Okay. Okay. Until you found your Rajkumar. Yeah. Yeah. 481 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,540 Can you understand Hindi now, like fully? Of course I do. Can you speak? So 482 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:11,680 that's another question. 483 00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:15,300 That people ask you. You want to go back to your number one question? No, I 484 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:19,420 don't want to go back. This is another one. And the next question is, ab hum 485 00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:20,860 Hindi mein baat karege. No. 486 00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:22,920 Okay, thank you for the announcement. 487 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:24,860 That's what I say. 488 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,900 No, I'm having fun just getting to know you. No, I do understand Hindi. 489 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,640 Can you speak? I do speak it, yes. 490 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:33,840 Okay. Are you going to say, okay, now hum. 491 00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:36,810 No. I don't know about like your dating life. 492 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:40,190 I have none. It's non -existent. Okay. 493 00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:46,510 But you always found it easy to have like a dating life. 494 00:31:47,410 --> 00:31:50,830 Yeah. In your famous part of your life as well. 495 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,890 That's something a lot of my famous friends are like dealing with now. 496 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:56,650 Because they're scared to be with somebody. 497 00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:58,370 I think that's an Indian thing. 498 00:31:58,670 --> 00:32:00,490 Really? Really? Yeah. 499 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,080 It's like, oh, no, she's unavailable or he's unavailable anymore. But I don't 500 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,300 think that works a lot with, you know, the West. Like, let's take someone like 501 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,820 Jennifer Lopez. 502 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,260 She's so hot all the time. 503 00:32:14,890 --> 00:32:19,290 Like, I don't think of her and go, oh, she has twins and oh, she's married to 504 00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:20,630 Ben Affleck. I don't care. 505 00:32:21,550 --> 00:32:27,370 Same thing with like, let's say Brad Pitt. I know he has, you know, kids out 506 00:32:27,370 --> 00:32:31,570 there or, you know, he's been in a relationship. I don't care. He's hot. 507 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,980 Or Ryan Gosling. 508 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,980 I actually don't care at all what kind of family they want. For me, in my head, 509 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:40,020 they're still available. 510 00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:41,900 Even though they're not available. 511 00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:48,140 Because I can never attain that. So I don't understand this whole philosophy 512 00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:53,380 not wanting to date somebody or be with somebody if you meet them because of 513 00:32:53,380 --> 00:32:54,380 your career. 514 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:57,340 I think career and relationships are totally different. 515 00:32:58,820 --> 00:33:01,080 What's been your most difficult phase in India? 516 00:33:01,659 --> 00:33:05,640 Like, since the time you've been here, what's been, like, the biggest 517 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:09,220 Not, like, you know, the professional stuff you're talking about, just you. 518 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,300 What did you find, like, difficult? 519 00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:15,220 I find building relationships here very difficult. 520 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,080 Because, like you said earlier, your friends have a hard time understanding 521 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,920 who's real, who's not, who's once. It's not, wasn't. 522 00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:27,760 You're talking about relationships and people having sex with each other or 523 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,120 building that relationship for some other motive. It's the same thing. 524 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,499 With friendship. 525 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,260 Yeah, of course. Finding friends. 526 00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:40,320 That's very, very difficult. I have very little friends here. It's so sad. 527 00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:45,600 But the few that I do have, I hold them close to me. And then everybody else I 528 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,540 work with. And those people have become my family. 529 00:33:48,820 --> 00:33:52,360 Okay. There have been people who have double -crossed you or something? 530 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:01,680 I don't know if it's like, yeah, of course, like business or personal. 531 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,940 Yeah, of course. In India? 532 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,060 Yeah, but that's like, but I mean, it also happened in the US too, but I've 533 00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:11,040 spent, you know, the last almost 11 years here. 534 00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:12,520 So yeah, of course. 535 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,760 Okay. How has one double -crossed you in like the personal life side of things? 536 00:34:19,659 --> 00:34:22,060 This woman was a... 537 00:34:22,350 --> 00:34:27,610 like having an affair with somebody, but she used myself and a friend of mine to 538 00:34:27,610 --> 00:34:32,790 use us and say, Oh, I'm with these two friends. Oh, like simple stuff. It's 539 00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:36,630 like, so like weird. But then at the end of the day, you're like, but my 540 00:34:36,630 --> 00:34:42,489 daughter was in the hospital at that time. You told your husband that you 541 00:34:42,489 --> 00:34:44,630 coming to visit me and use my. 542 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:51,739 sick daughter as your excuse that's low like that's that's pretty shady um but 543 00:34:51,739 --> 00:34:56,300 like stuff like that considering all the different career experiences you've had 544 00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,940 i think that you're a very sharp reader of people honestly like i think you can 545 00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:04,420 like break down people pretty fast i think that's how you've survived and 546 00:35:04,420 --> 00:35:10,520 as well uh well no i just don't let them in my circle in the first place i'm 547 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,100 very i'm very it's very hard to get in yeah um only because of like stuff that 548 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:19,500 i've seen even when i'm talking to you i feel like your energy is very guarded 549 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:23,880 and i respect that but like i can sense extremely guarded energy and i know that 550 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,560 audiences at this point can sense it as well it's just a natural well we're 551 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,680 meeting for the first time what do you want me to do jump in your lap and go 552 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:39,600 no no no usually people okay honestly 553 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,620 this is something i see with a lot of nris You guys are a little guarded as 554 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:45,200 compared to the Indians who've grown up here. 555 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,580 It's some cultural thing. 556 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,880 Yeah. Well, maybe it's you. It's not me. 557 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:55,320 I don't think it's me. Maybe it's you. I mean, you're like projecting this way, 558 00:35:55,460 --> 00:35:59,200 but maybe it's just, it's not me. Maybe it's you in that opinion. 559 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:03,240 Do you sense any guarded energy from me? This is like the least guarded a human 560 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,058 can be. 561 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:05,060 Yeah. 562 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,200 Sunny Leone. 563 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,040 That's it. We're done. Thank you. 564 00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:09,540 How was this conversation? 565 00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:12,380 It was very nice. Thank you. Okay. That's all. That's all. 566 00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:14,380 It was wonderful. Lovely. 567 00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:20,380 I had so much fun. I'm so excited to watch this podcast when it comes out. 568 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,800 I love your pink tee to your pink sweater because I love Marilyn Monroe. 569 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,080 No, but thank you. 570 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:32,380 It's very real talking to you. 571 00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:37,080 While I said you're guarded and everything, you're a very real type A 572 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,400 personality. And that energy is like rubbed off. I feel like getting my life 573 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,760 order. You should. I do have that effect on people. 574 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,820 All my mommies are like, damn. 575 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:54,010 Yeah. You give off that like very disciplined, listen, I'm going to get my 576 00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:57,270 done kind of vibe. And I think that's the biggest reason you've seen the 577 00:36:57,270 --> 00:37:01,690 you've seen. Thank you. I hope so. Lots of respect and lots of good wishes. 578 00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:03,050 Thank you for coming to the space. 579 00:37:03,330 --> 00:37:06,830 And I hope to have another conversation with you at some point. Thank you. 580 00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:08,450 All right. Thank you so much. 581 00:37:09,110 --> 00:37:13,250 That was the episode for today. We had a bit of a time constraint, which is why 582 00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:18,870 I couldn't take the conversation into as deep a place as I wish to take it. 583 00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:20,009 But you know what? 584 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:23,110 Sunny will probably be returning on the show at some point. 585 00:37:23,330 --> 00:37:25,050 Tell me what you thought of this episode. 586 00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:29,210 And until next time, guys, from Ranveer and the team, we'll see you later.